The social ramifications of rampant obesity

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:48 pm

I asked for clarification because what Kaelik was saying made sense for my personal anecdotal experience so long as it was appearance on the table.

My sister finally stopped dating the hottest guys she could find because she said they were all douchebags (the rest of us in the family were rather relieved when she made this realization - the drama was just horrific).

My idea of male handsomeness has always been divorced from what attracts me to them. I have "guys I like to look at" and "guys I think are hot."

The "guys I like to look at" classification is for men I consider attractive, but don't want to actually talk to or interact with in any way because when they open their mouths, nothing but ugly comes out. In high school, there was the cute jock football player in my math class, but every time he said anything, he demonstrated himself to be the dumbest human being on the planet. These guys are like cheap art - you look at them, but that's all their good for.

The "guys I think are hot" group contains guys who are competent, intelligent, thoughtful, and humorous, with appearance as quinary. I fully acknowledge that subjectively speaking, the first things I listed are actually capable of taking an average guy and improving his appearance. A lot of these guys are understated, and that's what I like - they don't have to tell you how great they are because their existence testifies to it. Some are more extroverted than others, but none of them have to tell you how great they are - they just show you.

Almaz · Post by **Almaz** » Sat May 21, 2011 2:58 am

Koumei wrote:My main experience with bi girls is entirely pleasant: a lot of them aren't up for threesomes because, get this, they are monogamous - they don't feel they need "one of each". So sometimes they have a boyfriend, sometimes a girlfriend, sometimes neither.

So just like anyone else, but with more options. For that, I envy them.

I'm not very good at being monogamous because I'm, whaddya call 'em, one of those "loose women" of "questionable morals", but threesomes are really not what I am into. If I am dating you, it is because I am interested in you, and spending time with you. I do not feel the need to have it all at the exact same time in the exact same room. If I did have a threesome, it'd be contingent on me having a relationship with the participants... the fact that for whatever reason I find it much harder to orgasm with participants I do not know very well doesn't help.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat May 21, 2011 3:40 am

Koumei wrote:My main experience with bi girls is entirely pleasant: a lot of them aren't up for threesomes because, get this, they are monogamous - they don't feel they need "one of each". So sometimes they have a boyfriend, sometimes a girlfriend, sometimes neither.

So just like anyone else, but with more options. For that, I envy them.

Hey, if it's not an option don't make the offer. I am cool with "I'm not interested in threesomes". I'm not cool with "I have done threesomes with other people I've dated and I totally will with you except WHAT ARE YOU DOING HOW DARE YOU SAY YES TO MY OFFER!!!!"

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sat May 21, 2011 3:44 am

Oh, that's stupid, I agree. I just find a lot of people are quick to denounce bi girls as the worst breed of annoying, flakey and self-centred. And my dealings with them are quite the other.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat May 21, 2011 4:54 am

That is in fact an issue I've had with women in general. They go into great detail about all the interesting sexual things they've done with other boyfriends then deny me the same things.

I've decided recently that being alone is in fact better than being with someone who is lame. Women have all the right in the world to say no to sexual things they don't want to do, but I have the right to ask them to leave my apartment if they aren't compatible with me in the bedroom. I'm not going to go full-asshole, but I'm turning up the dial about 50 millikaeliks.

Quantumboost · Post by **Quantumboost** » Sat May 21, 2011 5:16 am

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I'm not going to go full-asshole, but I'm turning up the dial about 50 millikaeliks.

Sig'd.

K · Post by K » Sat May 21, 2011 8:24 am

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:That is in fact an issue I've had with women in general. They go into great detail about all the interesting sexual things they've done with other boyfriends then deny me the same things.

You do know that women tend to be more willing to go off-menu the longer and better your relationship is, right? I mean, most men tend to be the opposite and do all the things they will do right at the beginning.

They also tend to have a "wild phase" where they try some stuff and figure out what they like. I mean, I can totally understand why anyone would be over the threesome period of their life.... they aren't that fun once the novelty wears off.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun May 22, 2011 1:46 am

Oh, threesomes aren't a priority. I just have an (unfortunate) tendency to call out bullshit when I think I see it. So if I'm offered one, I'm arranging it to see if the person meant it or not

As far as the longer the relationship theory, I guess it makes sense. I just haven't been able to make it work, you know? (And I have been asked not to discuss the time I made it last for any length of time

). Also, I don't really know how to make a relationship better (but I'm still working on that)